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Post 14-Feb-2013 05:21        

I never had any reason to post here before as I was very content, originally, with the communities I was active in. I was a core member at TACC that migrated to Massassi when that died. Cool Matty considered me one of the "serious trolls" he needed to ban, which most intellectually honest members of his board might disagree with.

I regret my interactions with CM at Massassi and I have never been able to reconcile with him. I only ask that my actions on this board be judged fairly from here on out and I look forward to reconnecting with some former acquaintances (from more than the last decade) here.
Post 14-Feb-2013 22:20        

wookie06 wrote:
I never had any reason to post here before as I was very content, originally, with the communities I was active in. I was a core member at TACC that migrated to Massassi when that died. Cool Matty considered me one of the "serious trolls" he needed to ban, which most intellectually honest members of his board might disagree with.


Only because it'd mean another opportunity to mock you/troll you.
Post 15-Feb-2013 00:45        

CM no reason for you to try to troll me here. You brought me up on this site, as I found, apparently to justify Jon`C's poor behavior to Darth Dan. A member whom, if my memory serves me correctly, I have a great deal in common with and always got along well with. I'm happy to find that he's here. Perhaps others from Brian's old site will learn that I'm here and check in to say hi.

Despite sincere apologies for things I may have communicated to you that caused you offense you feel the greater need is to protect your members from my "trolling". I'm certain you wouldn't want me to disrupt any of the profane or pornographic discussions that apparently are acceptable at Massassi now. And God forbid anyone actually challenge any of their ideas or assertions on any matters of actual import.

I can guarantee that if you want to start a conversation about me over here where, I presume, you can't threaten those that disagree with you with a ban you will not win. I will not be trolled. Period. I would also assume that the owner of this board isn't interested in personal drama playing out on it. I could be wrong as the board seems pretty slow now. Maybe it'll be welcomed with popcorn. I do not intend to act in anyway here against the wishes of the owner of this board and should this thread already be considered unacceptable I would not be offended if it were to be closed or these last two posted edited/deleted.
Post 16-Feb-2013 17:32        

It's been a long time since I've actually been on the forum, but I butted in here because Massassi was once a home to me. But 15 years. Massassi was the first Internet community I got involved with. But honestly it's totally awesome that we are here after all this time.

JK was part of my teenage life haha.

I do miss Brian though. CM do you still hear from him time to time?

Might consider a comeback. I was 'therealcja' and 'Eddbanger' btw.
Post 16-Feb-2013 19:32        

Brian was pretty much done when he handed the site off. He stuck around and posted from time to time for awhile but eventually he gave up on that too. Based on my emails with Brian I wouldn't think he would have remained in touch with CM. I don't recall him saying anything derogatory about him, he just saw CM as the only viable person to hand the site over to and was ready to wash his hands of it.
Post 16-Feb-2013 19:38        

CM has done a pretty good job of updating the forum software, by the way. As far as an editing and mod site, the tools and levels are all still there and some members and occasional newbies show up with some interesting creations. There was a recent level contest which, I believe, was meant as a sort of a send off. He can speak for himself but I think he's lost a lot of interest in Massassi as far as all the grand visions he might have had when he took over. He seems to be a very talented webmaster, though, so I assume when the right thing sparks his interest he'll launch something pretty impressive.
Post 16-Feb-2013 20:31        

wookie06 wrote:
CM no reason for you to try to troll me here. You brought me up on this site, as I found, apparently to justify Jon`C's poor behavior to Darth Dan. A member whom, if my memory serves me correctly, I have a great deal in common with and always got along well with. I'm happy to find that he's here. Perhaps others from Brian's old site will learn that I'm here and check in to say hi.


I'm not trolling. This has come up several times on the chat and forums. That's literally the only reason people have wanted you back at all (and even then it's not consensus).

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Despite sincere apologies for things I may have communicated to you that caused you offense you feel the greater need is to protect your members from my "trolling". I'm certain you wouldn't want me to disrupt any of the profane or pornographic discussions that apparently are acceptable at Massassi now. And God forbid anyone actually challenge any of their ideas or assertions on any matters of actual import.


It's that sort of talk that makes me not want to unban you.

No one banned you because you were just hilariously continuously wrong (and seriously, it was a lot). There's been plenty of members in the past who've been just as inane as you.

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I can guarantee that if you want to start a conversation about me over here where, I presume, you can't threaten those that disagree with you with a ban you will not win. I will not be trolled. Period. I would also assume that the owner of this board isn't interested in personal drama playing out on it. I could be wrong as the board seems pretty slow now. Maybe it'll be welcomed with popcorn. I do not intend to act in anyway here against the wishes of the owner of this board and should this thread already be considered unacceptable I would not be offended if it were to be closed or these last two posted edited/deleted.


A. While I am not the owner, I am the webhost, so I do theoretically hold the power. I have not used it, nor do I have any intention to. I do not ban because it wouldn't be right for me to do so, not because I cannot.
B. You have been trolled for /years/ on Massassi, I have no idea what makes you think you can't be trolled. And no, I'm not trolling here. I'm just informing you of just how altered your perception of the community is with you.

Anyway, the reason the site hasn't been revamped is I am not interested in doing the job all by myself. No one else, despite several calls for assistance, has stepped forward with anything useful, so I am not going forward with it. Jon`C was the closest we ever got to help on a new design.
Post 16-Feb-2013 22:10        

I've decided that I don't want to overtly continue this drama here. I have edited this post to remove my response but in order to be open I have created a publicly accessible google document with the contents. I know I opened this can of worms simply by creating this thread. My intent is not to smear Cool Matty. He made a decision that he felt was correct and justified. I have emailed him and if he is interested in responding we will deal with this in private. For anyone that is interested my original, removed, response is here.
Post 17-Feb-2013 18:37        

WOW! this is a pleasant surprise! Its good to have you back Wookie06, you are definitely welcome here in my book. Someone pointed out here on the HUB that you have joined and I really could care less about what others especially on Masassasi, Admin or members may differ. I consider the HUB a more positive and creative atmosphere. I had to tell CM of what I thought of his little band of reality show bitches on the discussion forum. I like the structure of Massassi but I could care less about most of the members of Massassi, except I have no qualms against Cool Matty and most of his admin and a handful of other friendlier members such as you, when you were a member and Fastgamer, Darth Alran, and a few others. I also appreciated it when CM placed a screen shot of my works on screen of the day, that was nice of him.

When some of the members caught wind of my conservative alignment they found me as easy prey. I was outnumbered and I simply retreated from the battle. I should of known better not to go in all alone into a Liberal community. I wanted to express my opinions in a positive and non trolling manner and got shot at. So any way I decided not to bring up politics anymore especially here but I'll tell you what I bet you and I are definetly keeping up on current events about today's situations right now. There is a few of us here on the HUB that gets together on Skype and do MP levels and screen sharing and such, its really fun. You should join us. Anyway Welcome back Wookie, its good to hear from you again.



p.s. Have you seen my last greatest project ONS?
Post 17-Feb-2013 19:54        

Thanks Dan. It had been so long since I saw you on Massassi that I actually forgot about you. Of course I remembered you instantly when I found your interaction with CM here. I remember liking you although you probably made some mistakes on Massassi, as I did. I think I've figured out a lot lately about communicating with people whether on or off line and I am optimistic that if I am ever allowed back on Massassi history will not repeat itself. I understand where your feelings about your treatment come from. CM stated that I've been trolled for years on his site. Perhaps you were subject to some of that as well. I'm cautiously optimistic that my attempt to have an honest and fair discussion with CM via email will at least bring the matter to a close in a manner I am satisfied with. Maybe I'm just a glutton for punishment but I would still love to interact with others on his site.

I have done virtually nothing with regards to any gaming for some time. Every so many months I'll get into a game and put some decent time in to it for a short period. I found on GOG many of the Wing Commander games on sale and hope to play them some time in the future (I skipped them when they were new, as you may remember games in the mid-90s cost more than they do now without adjusting for inflation and there was only so much room in the budget). I really want to get back at X-Wing Alliance at some point. Showing up here and learning of jkhub.org reminded me I have never finished Jedi Academy. Got to some level where you have to jump from wreckage to wreckage in a desert to avoid some creature. Never finished Star Trek Elite Force II (one of my few "questionable" acquisitions since I never purchased that new either). Actually, there's tons more that I own and have never finished. Hopefully I'll get to them at some point. I'll check out your offerings as well.

No, I've basically accomplished very little the last few years. I retired from the Army in 2010 and took the first no-brainer job I found. I kind of needed a mental break but the pay is crap. I'm getting closer to getting my current residence listed for sale and moving back to my previous residence that I had been renting out. It's now vacant so I'm eating two mortgages with a mediocre income. Once I move and stabilize my finances, I'll look at using my GI Bill finally.

I'll look into getting skype back up and running. I haven't had a need for it for some time. As always, my contact info is <my username>@gmail.com.
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Post 21-Feb-2013 14:23        

wookie06 wrote:
CM I would also assume that the owner of this board isn't interested in personal drama playing out on it. I could be wrong as the board seems pretty slow now. Maybe it'll be welcomed with popcorn.


I... guess I'm the closest this "board" has to an owner, and personally I'm utterly uninterested in reading your personal dramas. I'd rather see you posting your JK editing and/or commenting on others' work. That's what was in mind when this site was created. It was never intended to be a discussion board outside of that.

However, if you want to have a public discussion with CM about this private disagreement, as an admin I'm not going to go heavy on the moderation thereof. Just... y'know, be grown-up about it. I will go and figure out the moderation controls for this board's software if I have to...
Post 21-Feb-2013 23:54        

I might not have posted at all if I hadn't found out I'd been defamed here except that it is pretty cool to see some familiar usernames. I don't intend to have much of a discussion with him here but I do appreciate your flexibility. I may want to put some facts out there, just to feel as if I've at least corrected and completed the record.

I doubt I'll ever get back into trying to edit JK/MotS. I may very well check out and comment on the offerings of others when my personal situation stabilizes. That is, after all, what drew me into TACC and ultimately Massassi. Although I wish this place had a bit more of an open forum I can sure appreciate how much more sane it is compared to the sister site.
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